inclusive and more moderate, they are likely, on the long haul, to be losing ground. that is not speak to this election, because this election will be decided by the unemployment rate in may, june, or july. host: when this country is in a recession, does that encourage or discourage voters? guest: under normal circumstances, and encourages voters, because they are angry and mobilized. the places where we have had significant increases since 1960, during a period of decline, 1982, when we had a recession, 1992, when we were coming out of recession, and 2004, 2006, and 2008, particularly in 2006 and 2008. the problem right now is that people do not seek hope of coming out of the recession from either party.